[LearningDisabilities 1537] Re: Transition- retention rate incollege for students with LDWill Fagan wfagan at mun.caSat Nov 10 12:53:18 EST 2007
Hi: I am speaking of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. This may be a Canadian Federal (national) law but I am not sure of that. Bill On 10-Nov-07, at 9:04 AM, Katherine G wrote: > "It is the law here that LD students must be accommodated so there > are > grounds for appeal if a student feels he/she is not being > accommodated." > > Are you referring to the A.D.A.? > > Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov > [mailto:learningdisabilities-bounces at nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Will Fagan > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:34 PM > To: The Learning Disabilities Discussion List > Subject: [LearningDisabilities 1526] Re: Transition- retention rate > incollege for students with LD > > > A few points. > It is unfortunate when LD or any students encounter "elitist" > professors. > It is the law here that LD students must be accommodated so there are > grounds for appeal if a student feels he/she is not being > accommodated. > > One point that should not be ignored is that LD students often have > parents > who are skilled and dedicated advocates and tend to provide more > support > for their children in coping with "life skills" than do parents of > non-LD students. > Bill > > > > On 9-Nov-07, at 3:41 PM, Arlyn Roffman wrote: > >> Bill Fagan wrote - ... While I don't have statistics, it seems >> that if LD >> students reach university they do well. The expectation is that >> they are as >> intelligent as the next student, they only need an accommodation >> to help >> them demonstrate the knowledge they have. >> >> The bottleneck seems to be in the school system, when strategies, >> programs, >> plans, are not available to unlock the potential students have and >> they fall >> by the wayside and do not make it to university. >> >> >> Bill, I fully agree that school systems aren't doing enough to >> promote >> continuation on to postsecondary learning for students with LD. I >> agree that >> schools should be doing more to help students learn to problem- >> solve and >> strategize, and certainly to be self-aware. But I think our biggest >> failing >> is low expectations. Too many students fail to even consider >> continuing on >> because no one is telling them that it's a possibility. Some are >> capable of >> attending highly competitive colleges; others need to find settings >> with >> less rigorous academic demands. But even students who don't look like >> traditional "college material" have options to continue. According >> to Dr. >> Loring Brinckerhoff, who wrote the postsecondary chapter in my >> book, the >> majority of students with learning disabilities who enroll in post- >> secondary >> education start by spending a year or two at their local community >> college, >> where there is generally an open admissions policy, meaning a high >> school >> diploma or a GED is all that is necessary for admission. There are >> many >> financial and academic advantages of the community college option, >> but >> there is a potential psychological benefit as well, since, as a >> non-residential institution where all students are commuters, >> students are >> able to “try out” the college experience close to home, near family >> and >> friends. >> >> The fact is, in the US (you mention your province, so I'm guessing >> you're >> from Canada), only 20% of students with LD enroll in college, and >> MANY of >> those (nearly half) never graduate. So, once they do matriculate, >> we would >> do well to make sure students with LD have access to more than just >> classroom accommodations. Coming back to my comments yesterday about >> community living skills, we should see to it that there's support >> for their >> adjustment to the many changes that come with college life. We need >> to help >> them adjust to larger classes, to less structured time, to having >> to balance >> academics with social demands, to less frequent feedback from >> instructors, >> to having to manage their finances independently, to dealing with >> roommates, >> and on and on. Time management alone is a HUGE challenge for >> students on >> college campuses. So, in high school and in postsecondary settings, >> we need >> to help students prepare for the broader demands of the college >> experience. >> As I keep saying over and over again here, LD is far more than just >> about >> reading and writing! >> Arlyn >> >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> National Institute for Literacy >> Learning Disabilities mailing list >> LearningDisabilities at nifl.gov >> To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to >> http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities >> Email delivered to wfagan at mun.ca > > ---------------------------------------------------- > National Institute for Literacy > Learning Disabilities mailing list > LearningDisabilities at nifl.gov > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities > Email delivered to kgotthardt at comcast.net > > ---------------------------------------------------- > National Institute for Literacy > Learning Disabilities mailing list > LearningDisabilities at nifl.gov > To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to > http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/learningdisabilities > Email delivered to wfagan at mun.ca
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