[Diversity 150] Re: religion on this discussion listMuro, Andres amuro5 at epcc.eduThu Sep 4 12:50:09 EDT 2008
First we must understand that things are not black and white even though laws in some ways give that illusion. We are a diverse society and people carry baggage of emotions, feelings, desires, culture, traditions, etc. Inclusive and diverse practices that promote respect should encourage people to learn from others while not imposing their values on others. Rather, there should be opportunity for exchange, interaction and learning. That is the theory, and the practice becomes more difficult because we begin to cross peoples comfort zones. The more we learn about others, the more we become tolerant about other people's practices and we begin to understand the difference between sharing and imposing. To me, wishing someone a blessed time is sharing. On the other hand demanding that we all pray together daily is more of an imposition. Having said that, the question was how do we promote diversity without imposing our values. I think that a way is to use holidays to do so. A teacher can state at the beginning of the class that she would like to learn about student's holidays and invite them to bring things to the class to inform others on given days. This way all students are informed that this will happen and they will feel that they'll have an opportunity to share their traditions. Of course, some of the students holidays may not be during class. The teacher may choose to give those students an opportunity to share their practices on other days. Teachers may choose to have international weeks, cooking days, cultural events and so on and so forth. Out of these practices teachers can construct all kinds of language learning activities. Permanently displaying crosses, virgin marys, bibles, praying daily, etc are impositions. Having periods of time to learn about other people's cultures is promoting diversity to me. Accepting the well wishes of others is polite, to say the least, and also good Karma (whatever that means). Andres Please visit my art website at: http://www.geocities.com/andresmuro/art.html ________________________________ From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov on behalf of Karen Wyman Sent: Thu 9/4/2008 9:40 AM To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List Subject: [Diversity 147] Re: religion on this discussion list Hi, Julie and list members, Just a question this time, in the kind of environment you are describing, what steps would you take to ensure that the learning environment is safe, welcoming, comfortable, and empowering for a student who is opposed to organized religions or specific religions or has been harmed through their involvement in religion? Karen Karen Wyman Community Outreach Trainer New Mexico Coalition Against Domestic Violence (NMCADV) 201 Coal Avenue SW Albuquerque, NM 87102 phone 505.246.9240 fax 505.246.9434 www.nmcadv.org karenw at nmcadv.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: diversity-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:diversity-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Julie McKinney Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:23 AM To: diversity at nifl.gov Subject: [Diversity 145] Re: religion on this discussion list I think a discussion like this is a perfect use for the Diversity list! What strikes me is that one of the most important things about an adult learning environment is creating a safe, welcoming, comfortable, empowering place. This means that each student must feel comfortable sharing their feelings, ideas and views without fear of any kind of rejection. How many times have we seen that adults learn better in this kind of setting? Especially when they are learning to communicate in new ways, they must be able to feel free to express their own ideas. Personal and passionate beliefs like the expression of religious ideas (and expressing is not the same as prosyletizing) is a powerful springboard to interactive and meaningful discussion. This, in turn, helps to improve language, literacy and communication better than discussing trivial issues. So, as Daphne suggested, this is a good opportunity to explore the commonalities that arise from what the Muslims "ponder" during this holiday (such as "injustices, inequality, wrongs visited upon the poor and vulnerable...etc.) This shows how things can be interpreted so differently depending one one's attitude. What seems at first to be a point of stark difference can often be seen as common ground instead. Julie Julie McKinney Health Literacy List Moderator World Education jmckinney at worlded.org >>> "Daphne Greenberg" <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu> 09/03/08 9:31 PM >>> One of the examples of suitable topics for this discussion list, from the posted description on the NIFL Web page (http://nifl.gov/lincs/discussions/diversity/about_diversity.html), is "religious differences and adult literacy classrooms". So Ochieng's original post (especially with the introductory sentence) seems on topic to me. I see two possible examples of utilizing the rich information provided by Ochieng. One example would be directed at programs who wanted to focus this month on understanding the Muslim faith. To do so would be similar to programs deciding to focus on another month on the Jewish faith (during their high holiday season), the Christian faith (during Christmas), women (during Women's month) or African Americans (during African American month). This would be especially appropriate for ESL programs that want to introduce their students to the different peoples that make up our country. As another example, it seems to me that her post lists a few of the types of issues that could be discussed, read about, written about in an ABE class: "injustices, inequality, wrongs visited upon the poor and vulnerable, unity of the ummah, corruption, leadership, marginalization, environment, prejudices and stereotypes, etc. " Both of these examples seem to me to be reasonable and worthwhile for the Diversity and Literacy discussion list. Perhaps some people may take issue to the following phrases and sentences: "blessed opportunity" , "mercy and forgiveness from Allah" and especially "May Allah (SWT) grant all of us us the ibadah(devotion) of the night of Qadr(blessed night) and make us the best ummah." Perhaps for some, these cross the line between description into endorsement of a particular religious faith. I don't know if this violates any government rules, and I do not think we have anything in the NIFL policies that addresses this, so I believe that this is new territory. So, Kearney, thanks for your post and raising an interesting question for all of us to ponder. I would like all list subscribers to think about Ochieng's post and Kearney's response. What do you as literacy professionals interested in diversity -- think would be good guidelines for the discussion lists, and also for the classroom, of what is and is not appropriate to say about religion or faith. I think it's a fascinating topic. Perhaps there are articles written about religion, faith and the public school classroom. I don't know. I am curious, would people have posted Ochieng's post? What if someone posted the below message-would your answer be the same or different: Many of you have Christian students who are celebrating the blessed holiday on December 25th. I would like to wish them Merry Christmas. It is a day of deep reflection in celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. It is a blessed opportunity to reflect upon and grapple with the issues that afflict the souls of not only the Christian Community but the greater creation of God. It is also the time to ponder and generate solutions to such issues as injustices, inequality, wrongs visited upon the poor and vulnerable, unity of the Christian Community, corruption, leadership, marginalization, environment, prejudices and stereotypes, etc. Christmas is an important holiday of piety, family and community sharing, selflessness and a time to seek God's mercy. May God grant all of us the ability to appreciate this holy day and make us the best people possible. Would you have posted a message like this? Why or why not? Daphne >>> Kearney Lykins <kearney_lykins at yahoo.com> 09/03/08 4:50 PM >>> I am surprised that no one has yet commented on the propriety of using a government listserve to circulate religious doctrine. Has The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List now become a vehicle for promoting religious holidays and disseminating prayers? Regards, Kearney Lykins ----- Original Message ---- From: Ochieng kh <ochykheyr at yahoo.com> To: The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List <diversity at nifl.gov> Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 10:02:45 AM Subject: [Diversity 129] Ramadhan Kareem Dear All, Many of you have Muslim students who are celebrating the blessed month of Ramadhan. I would like to wish them Ramadhan kareem. It is a month of deep reflection and self-restraint while praying for spiritual purity, good tidings and endless bounties. It is a blessed opportunity to reflect upon and grapple with the issues that afflict the souls of not only the Muslim ummah but the greater creation of Allah (SWT). It is also the time to ponder and generate solutions to such issues as injustices, inequality, wrongs visited upon the poor and vulnerable, unity of the ummah, corruption, leadership, marginalization, environment, prejudices and stereotypes, etc. Ramadhan is an important month of Patience, sharing and selflessness and a time to seek the mercy and forgiveness from Allah (SWT) May Allah (SWT) grant all of us us the ibadah(devotion) of the night of Qadr(blessed night) and make us the best ummah. 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